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Can't remember the last time I had faith in humanity...
Topic Started: Jun 1 2015, 05:34 PM (1,022 Views)
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http://www.theladbible.com/articles/binman-sacked-after-throwing-injured-dog-in-garbage-truck

What f***ing a***** I hope both those guys get chucked in a garbage truck see if they like being slowly crushed to death surrounded by rubbish, s*** and whatever else.

I refuse to believe people like that are among the same species as me.


He might not even go to jail, just a fine. Just a fine for a clearly sick individual who'd be willing to do god knows what else if he can casually do that to a dog any kids he might have better watch out.

Dog might have died anyway sure but how the f*** is a death like that an act of kindness? What a bulls*** way to try justify being an evil prick.
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the great thing is not everyone drags an injured dog and throws it in a garbage truck, right?

i'm always confused when people hear about a few things one person or a group of people do and then they say they've lost faith in humanity.
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It's just a saying.
But yeah, only a fine is disgusting.
People who hurt animals clearly belong in a mental asylum
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more like hyperbole, and an annoying one at that.
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Jun 1 2015, 05:48 PM
more like hyperbole, and an annoying one at that.
To be fair.
A lot of sayings are just hyperboles.
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Jun 1 2015, 05:42 PM
the great thing is not everyone drags an injured dog and throws it in a garbage truck, right?

i'm always confused when people hear about a few things one person or a group of people do and then they say they've lost faith in humanity.
But humans are capable of something so awful.

And it's not like it's a miniscule minority of us who do horrible things, unless you're only looking at first world countries. And then there's also the people who would do these things if they could get away with it.

Bumps it up to quite a lot of us being a*****. Then if you consider how many people are selfish vs selfless.
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okay show me stats
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Aitzaz Hasan was a teenager who sacrificed his own life to stop a suicide bombing that could have killed hundreds/thousands of school children. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25663992

Ali Mohammadian shaved his head in response to a pupil being bullied when they lost their hair during cancer treatment. The rest of the class followed suit. http://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/2014/jan/28/iranian-teacher-hero-shaving-head-solidarity-bullied-pupil

Lucas Patchett and Nicholas Marchesi started the Orange Sky Laundry Prjoect that washes homeless people's clothes for free. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2806667/Cleaning-streets-Meet-young-guys-offering-mobile-laundry-service-homeless.html

Yu Xukang carries his disabled son 4.5 miles to and from school every day. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2577520/The-devoted-Chinese-father-carries-son-18-MILES-school-day-Sichuan-province.html

That's just 4 stories of humans doing good that took me 5 minutes to find. It's easy to 'lose your faith in humanity' when you're leaning that way in the first place, but there are plenty of stories out there of people doing good in the world. You just have to look.

In regards to the story, it's horrible, the guy is scumbag, and a fine is not enough punishment.
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For that first one, someone was going to do the bombing in the first place, they were willing to kill hundreds/thousands of school children.

Second one people were bullying the cancer patient to begin with.

Third that one is decent. Though you could wonder why the people are homeless, if they are all there because they were in jail does their clothes being washed negate the bad they done? (IF as in hypothetically they were all from jail)

Fourth is also decent. Though would he do it if it wasn't his child? How many people would?


Two of those directly related to other humans being dicks. So in regard to already leaning that way, same goes to if you look on the good side.
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There's a difference between thinking about doing something you shouldn't, and actually doing something you shouldn't.

The people who don't do stuff because they know they wouldn't get away with it might be a bit suspect but the sheer fact they don't do those things is kind of a good thing, is it not?

Also, people that hurt animals shouldn't go to a mental asylum. There's a whole market based around killing animals for food so you're already making a big generalisation there. People that abuse animals for no good reason, such as the dog being thrown in a garbage truck, should be dealt with by the law.

The thing about the law is that it is based off of cases. If there's been a previous case where someone did something similar, albeit not exactly the same thing, the chances are the sentence will be based off of that. It's called judicial precedent. If the punishment for the previous case was a fine, then the guy will be fined unless there is significant evidence to suggest that he should go to jail.

Because it was a stray dog he can hardly be sent to prison for kidnapping the dog or damaging someone's property/killing their pet. Certainly he should not have done what he did but the laws of this world are more complicated than "OMG THIS GUY KILLED A DOG, HE SHOULD GO TO PRISON HE'S THE WORST HUMAN BEING EVARRR"
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Jun 1 2015, 06:17 PM
For that first one, someone was going to do the bombing in the first place, they were willing to kill hundreds/thousands of school children.

Second one people were bullying the cancer patient to begin with.

Third that one is decent. Though you could wonder why the people are homeless, if they are all there because they were in jail does their clothes being washed negate the bad they done? (IF as in hypothetically they were all from jail)

Fourth is also decent. Though would he do it if it wasn't his child? How many people would?


Two of those directly related to other humans being dicks. So in regard to already leaning that way, same goes to if you look on the good side.
but why focus on the negative, though? why completely ignore the altruistic behaviours?
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Jun 1 2015, 06:17 PM
For that first one, someone was going to do the bombing in the first place, they were willing to kill hundreds/thousands of school children.

Second one people were bullying the cancer patient to begin with.

Third that one is decent. Though you could wonder why the people are homeless, if they are all there because they were in jail does their clothes being washed negate the bad they done? (IF as in hypothetically they were all from jail)

Fourth is also decent. Though would he do it if it wasn't his child? How many people would?


Two of those directly related to other humans being dicks. So in regard to already leaning that way, same goes to if you look on the good side.
You aren't proving your point, you're proving that it's 50/50 and you can look at it either way. You're also showing that you look for the bad before the good, which is obviously going to shape the way you view the world. The examples of positive and negative human behaviour are both in abundance and easily found, and if you'd rather focus on the negative, that's fine, but you can't argue that just because humans are capable of evil acts, it discounts the good ones.

Also, I don't lean either way. I accept that humans are capable of incredible kindness, horrendous atrocities, and everything in between.
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Jun 1 2015, 06:23 PM
but why focus on the negative, though? why completely ignore the altruistic behaviours?
Why not?

If a grand portion of the good things people do are cleaning up after the bad things others have done as far as I'm concerned that doesn't cancel out the bad people are so easily inclined to do, more people throw away trash than pick it up.
In fact most people who do pick up trash either have to because it interrupts their life or they do so because they're paid to.
More people cut down the Amazon than try to restore it.
More people poach endangered species than actively try to protect them(most of those are paid to as well)

If most of the good we do is trying to cover up as much of the bad we do as possible and failing how can it be said that both sides are equal?

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but you can't argue that just because humans are capable of evil acts, it discounts the good ones.


But can you argue that the good cancels out the bad? How many people murder, steal, rape, abuse and bully vs how many donate kidneys, protect the innocent, help old ladies across the street, give generously to others, try to inspire and help people?

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There's a difference between thinking about doing something you shouldn't, and actually doing something you shouldn't.

The people who don't do stuff because they know they wouldn't get away with it might be a bit suspect but the sheer fact they don't do those things is kind of a good thing, is it not?


So if someone really wants to go do something bad just for a thrill doesn't do it because they're merely scared they will get caught, that's good of them?
Not sure how something like that could possibly qualify as good, It's good for any potential victims but the person who wants to go out doing awful things is hardly a good human being.

Much like how if someone sees an old person struggling with a heavy bag of shopping and wants to help them, it isn't good of them if they don't bother to go help. Not that it's evil but abandoning kind thoughts in favour of doing their own thing doesn't make them nice.
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"Restoring faith in humanity, one story at a time."

Humans are good more than they are bad.

But if you are so intent on believing we are doomed then you might as well go kill yourself because obviously there's no point to being alive. You're only going to get robbed or murdered otherwise. Might as well just give up now.


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Losing faith in humanity, what a pessimistic outlook. Just because the media prefers to publicize all the horrible things that happen definitely doesn't mean that humanity is doomed. There are soooo many good people out there doing wonderful things for the world but that's just not interesting enough for the media to publicize I guess.
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